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# Open Kernel global-expert MoE block sizing | PTLLM

> Use the global expert count for routing density; do not confuse that heuristic with local expert IDs used by alignment. Retained outcome: worked with caveat.

Canonical: https://posttrainllm.com/experiments/openkernel-moe-20261023
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Experiment · runtime perf

Use the global expert count for routing density; do not confuse that heuristic with local expert IDs used by alignment. Retained outcome: worked with caveat.

**Outcome:** worked with caveat

**Family:** runtime perf

**Evidence confidence:** exact

**Record:** infrastructure

## Evidence readout

2026-10-23 H200 scored run 84fb1b656d3c44e2: 1.0645x aggregate, reported 95% interval 1.0485-1.0804x; correctness passed with no flags.

## What the attempt taught

Use the global expert count for routing density; do not confuse that heuristic with local expert IDs used by alignment.

## Why it stopped or stayed bounded

The gain is specific to the supplied expert-parallel routing distribution and organizer H200 workload.

## Method and scope

- Experiment family: runtime perf.

- Record kind: infrastructure.

## Disposition

Experiment closed after scored run beb82b4224554523 finished at rank 283/749, outside the owner top-100 target. Retain the research artifact; no further jobs.

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## Source provenance

The normalized record comes from `docs/attempts.json`. The links below are the tracked evidence and explanatory sources preserved with the record.

- [docs/learn/openkernel.md](https://posttrainllm.com/docs/learn/openkernel)

- [experiments/openkernel/results.json](https://github.com/PostTrainLLM/posttrainllm/blob/main/experiments/openkernel/results.json)

- [experiments/openkernel/muse_moe_w4a16/submission.py](https://github.com/PostTrainLLM/posttrainllm/blob/main/experiments/openkernel/muse_moe_w4a16/submission.py)

## Related evidence

- [Primary proof](https://posttrainllm.com/docs/learn/openkernel)

- [Applicable recipe](https://posttrainllm.com/recipes)

- [Learning path](https://posttrainllm.com/learn/paths/runtime-and-agents)

Canonical record: `experiment:openkernel-moe-20261023`
